Meanderings
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moonwiseI had my Laguna and Raine story from the last dj translated by Mihoko, and I'm having a very tough time not novelizing it, even though it wouldn't fit with Storm Front. It's just so cute!
Laguna and Raine: Do it do it do it do it...
Arafel: Shut up. You take up too much of my head anyway.
The rest of this is idle musing about the fate of the rest of my fic and is largely for me to just talk to the wall, but if any of you have ideas, please do share your thoughts.
So now that we've had the Great Revelation and a good time afterwards, I have to start thinking about how the rest of the fic is going to go. Of course there will be the inevitable return of Kiros and then getting married and so on, but there are two burning questions:
1. How long are Laguna and Raine together before Esthar arrives
and
2. Does Laguna know Raine is pregnant before he leaves.
It's a tough question. Squall was born in August, so it stands to reason that he was conceived nine months or thereabouts earlier. As time stands in the story, it's September. If Elle is kidnapped in the theoretical Year One, they have all of three months of wedded bliss. I have to admit that interrupting it is very tragic and that's rather the point of the story, but giving them another year is so tempting. Not that I'd drag the fic out for that year, but still. Time to get attached etc.
Then again, not too many friends chill out for a year while their former commander makes nooky with the barmaid. I think it's going to have to be something as short as 3-5 months because of the way I've set the story up (drat drat drat.) If I'd only plotted the calendar a little better... :P But anyway.
Next question.
The more I think about it, the more I think Laguna must have had some inkling that he had a son, whether he knew Raine was pregnant or not. I mean... he did know Edea; we see him talk to her when he's looking for Ellone, and presumably they were in contact when Ellone goes to the orphanage later. And Laguna knows that Edea and Cid made a ship where Elle could stay safe.
So how could Edea not tell Laguna about his progeny? If we give Laguna the benefit of the doubt, then she might not have known who Squall's father was; she didn't know Raine and she might have assumed that the baby was Raine's by some unknown man. But the kicker is that Elle must have known. The game seems to tell us that Laguna and Raine were married before he left to chase Elle - they certainly had enough time together to make a baby, and not everyone gets pregnant on the first try - and how would Elle not have told Edea who Squall's mom and dad were?
So I am forced to conclude that Laguna knew that he had a son, one way or another, and either he was so busted up over Raine's death that he didn't want to take care of the baby or he just didn't feel he could handle raising a son alone. I suppose Laguna might have thought that growing up with other kids was better than growing up in the Presidential Palace. I hardly think that excuses anything, but still.
[Laguna is looking very shamefaced]
Yeah, you probably should look shamefaced at that, dear muse. The only mitigating factor is that you meant well, in all likelihood.
Still must do some more mulling over this but thinking it through like this helps.
Laguna and Raine: Do it do it do it do it...
Arafel: Shut up. You take up too much of my head anyway.
The rest of this is idle musing about the fate of the rest of my fic and is largely for me to just talk to the wall, but if any of you have ideas, please do share your thoughts.
So now that we've had the Great Revelation and a good time afterwards, I have to start thinking about how the rest of the fic is going to go. Of course there will be the inevitable return of Kiros and then getting married and so on, but there are two burning questions:
1. How long are Laguna and Raine together before Esthar arrives
and
2. Does Laguna know Raine is pregnant before he leaves.
It's a tough question. Squall was born in August, so it stands to reason that he was conceived nine months or thereabouts earlier. As time stands in the story, it's September. If Elle is kidnapped in the theoretical Year One, they have all of three months of wedded bliss. I have to admit that interrupting it is very tragic and that's rather the point of the story, but giving them another year is so tempting. Not that I'd drag the fic out for that year, but still. Time to get attached etc.
Then again, not too many friends chill out for a year while their former commander makes nooky with the barmaid. I think it's going to have to be something as short as 3-5 months because of the way I've set the story up (drat drat drat.) If I'd only plotted the calendar a little better... :P But anyway.
Next question.
The more I think about it, the more I think Laguna must have had some inkling that he had a son, whether he knew Raine was pregnant or not. I mean... he did know Edea; we see him talk to her when he's looking for Ellone, and presumably they were in contact when Ellone goes to the orphanage later. And Laguna knows that Edea and Cid made a ship where Elle could stay safe.
So how could Edea not tell Laguna about his progeny? If we give Laguna the benefit of the doubt, then she might not have known who Squall's father was; she didn't know Raine and she might have assumed that the baby was Raine's by some unknown man. But the kicker is that Elle must have known. The game seems to tell us that Laguna and Raine were married before he left to chase Elle - they certainly had enough time together to make a baby, and not everyone gets pregnant on the first try - and how would Elle not have told Edea who Squall's mom and dad were?
So I am forced to conclude that Laguna knew that he had a son, one way or another, and either he was so busted up over Raine's death that he didn't want to take care of the baby or he just didn't feel he could handle raising a son alone. I suppose Laguna might have thought that growing up with other kids was better than growing up in the Presidential Palace. I hardly think that excuses anything, but still.
[Laguna is looking very shamefaced]
Yeah, you probably should look shamefaced at that, dear muse. The only mitigating factor is that you meant well, in all likelihood.
Still must do some more mulling over this but thinking it through like this helps.
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Date: 2002-06-19 02:38 pm (UTC)>*dodges hail of pens and pencils*
LOL ! For some reason I can envision that... No offense Hideto ! :D
I think 3 - 5 months or so sounds like the right amount of time, a year sounds like too much. 3 months not being too little if you want to go by the calendar.
I always got the impression that Laguna came to the orphanage to check on Ellone, I think he mentions her in one conversation with Edea outside of the orphanage but since he doesn't ask about Squall, I got the feeling he didn't know about him then or that might just be the game's intentions. It's unlikely he didn't know from Ellone that he did have a son, though, in the game doesn't he stop Squall once and almost start saying something that they will have to talk later. And Kiros or Ward says "you look like your mother" or something like that to Squall if you play cards with them. Or I may be confusing the game with Mullenkamp's card fic.
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Date: 2002-06-19 03:00 pm (UTC)Laguna does stop by the orphanage once in the game, but IIRC, he's looking for Ellone, not checking on her. I'd have to look at the game script to make 100% sure. Ostensibly, this is how he knows about the Kramers.
But yeah, on the Ragnarok, Kiros tells Squall that it's a good thing that he looks like his mother and not his father. I also find it quite hard to believe that Laguna never heard about his son from Ellone or anyone else. Not so noble of you, Laguna... But yeah, just before Squall goes off to attack Lunatic Pandore, Laguna does invite him to talk. Knowing Squall, you could probably have frozen water in the room where they were talking by the end of it... O_o
[Laguna looks even more shamefaced]